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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 1:47 pm 
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The bloke is such a worm!! You Sheffield types so have to do the business on him at the next election...x


Correcto ..>

I voted Liberal for a good while - as they appeared to be more left wing than Labour - then was shafted at the last election - would go back to Labour but I just think they are all nobbers - OK I'll go back to Labour - that should reduce Stephen O'Briens majority to 12254 :roll:


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Great expression that, nobbers. I will borrow that if I may Pops. I've learnt such a lot from this forum – never heard the word cock end until I came on here. Excellent term of willy-related abuse which has somehow slipped into my vocabulary.

And I just vote for which ever leftie loony presents themself. You know, the ones with 47 votes and most of them are their family. Well, one of those golden votes is mine. Voted Labour in the Mayoral election in London but that's because Boris is such a knob cheese that I couldn't vote for one of the 57 varieties of socialism.

Was a life-long Labour voter until they became war-mongering representatives of the chattering classes. And I work for a Labour council – enough to put you off for life. x


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I've never voted anything but Labour, not because I think they're particularly trustworthy or anything like that, my abhorrence of the stranglehold of authority means I kick against everything from being told to wear a security pass at work right through to the current policing and Government systems.

However, somebody has to be in charge, and personally, I see a vote cast for the Monster Raving Loonies or whatever as a vote that could have been given to Labour to help keep the even worse pestilence out, but I defend them only because they are the feeble best of a piss poor selection.


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maggie wrote:
they are the feeble best of a piss poor selection.


I may use this quote when canvassers ask me! It's ace!

Will vote Labour to get this filth out but my votes haven't gone to waste – I've voted for trade union candidates a couple of times, which is a good thing. Labour needs to get back to it's roots – I stopped voting for them because I was sick of going to the polling station and holding my nose while I put my cross on the paper. Putting the cross on the paper and trying to keep all the bombed women and kids in Iraq out of my mind while I do it.

All this Clegg thing about apologising for going back on something he said he'd do but he didn't. For fucks sake, the lot of them – Labour, Tory, Lib Dem – the lot, would spend their whole lives saying sorry because they never stick to principles about anything. Where have all the good people gone?

I respect your position Maggie and it is one I shared for most of my life and, no doubt, when push comes to shove, I'll get out that big bloody clothes peg and stick it on my conk all over again. But the majority have already voted with their feet – I just think it's time we thought of something to bring them back. x


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Thankfully we all have the vote to do with it as we choose - please don't think i'm having a go - and yes Iraq was a horrible eye opener and they're all scum.

All this feuding on the tele is, I'm sure, just for show and with exception of very few I'm sure there's a load of across party back slapping and braying in the Wig and Fucking Pen or wherever they drink when the Commons chucks out.

For all that I don't really fancy Communism, 'cos I quite like being a boss (I reckon the higher you go the fewer people there are to tell you what to do) so I shall just piss and moan for the forseeable :D


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Labour for me all the way. I feel physically sick and my hand trembles if I ever, for a second, think of voting for any other party. I strongly believe we should all vote and if that means some people vote for the Monster Raving Loony Party then at least they have registered their dissatisfaction with anything else on offer. I just go with the party I feel represents my principles and for me that is Labour. I do, however, accept that some dreadful decisions have been made by 'new' Labour and can understand people turning to an alternative. The Lib Dems have shot themselves in the foot now becoming the Tory lapdogs. They are no longer an alternative for disillusioned Labour voters.

To go back to a previous point on this or another thread - can't remember- Maggie and Helen, you are both forces to be reckoned with and can slap anyone down with both wit and venom. I salute you! I quite like PD's idea of smiling to irritate people too.

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i completely understand everyone's reluctance to vote labour, and i voted liberal a couple of elections ago in horror at the war, and disagreement with the local mp who went back on his word about the local hospital, only to find that we actually got a liberal mp.

oh f*ck what have i done i thought. never again.

i read what i thought was a decent justification for sticking to labour under the circumstances:
if you only choose the lesser of two evils,
at least you get less evil.

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With a deep breath....

Could never vote Labour, I just can't do it.

People complain about the LibDems, but no party has ever sold out their principles more consitently than Labour. LibDems have always been Capitalist (the clue is in the name), but Labour going from a party than had a Socialist state is it's over riding goal and is now, regardless of what they say, an explicitly Capitalist party just says all you need to know about them.

They also have the damn cheek to say much would be different now with them in power. Alistair Darling himself stood at the Despatch Box before the 2010 Election and said Labour would cut deeper than Thatcher did and now they go on about how it would be so different with them in power. Utter rubbish.

They give lip-service to the cuts and nothing more, most of the people who have lost their jobs working for the state under the coalition would have lost them under Labour - their own figures show that whilst, proportionally, the Coalition are cutting £8 they would cut £7. They are knowingly taking people for fools and exploiting people's anger and fears as if they were offering an alternative.

Balls sucked up to the City when he was Minister responsible for it and was happy when they gave Labour money (just as they all were when Murdoch supported them) and now acts like he has always opposed them and is fighting on people's behalf, fucking liar.

Maybe it's that I turned 18 just before the Iraq War started and cast my first vote against them, but those bastards took us into something that cost the lives, according to the UN, of 150,000 innocent people and I just can't forget of forgive that. Blair may be gone, but the party did nothing to stop him. Yes, some did oppose it - but the fact a majority didn't says it all.

When even the LibDems can say that a majority of their MPs did not vote for the tuition fees rise and the majority of Labour MPs did vote for Iraq says a great, great deal.

Even Nick Clegg isn't a War Criminal. The idea sheer idea that Alistair Campbell is now some sort of Labour hero and chat show favourite and not in the fucking Hague for helping take us into something so criminal astounds me. Changes to how the NHS is funded is nothing against making up fucking lies that led to the slaughter of innocent people.

Labour just play on the memories of it's past icons. Can you honestly, hand on heart, imagine Bevan (who was thrown out of it for a time for being too left-wing), Foot or Attlee in today's Labour party? God no. Just because the rosette says Labour doesn't mean it actually is.

Time for a cold shower, lie down and a listen to Elvis singing 'If I can Dream' on repeat.

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I think you probably have the forum award for leftie ranting sewn up. More power to you. You're supposed to young and angry and want to change the world.

I think it just shows how much they misjudge the situation that Clegg has endorsed a charity single that someone has made of his sorry speech.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iN6-Oev6Po

I think the height of fuckwitism has been reached. x


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Without wanting to sound patronising Hot Charity, I am so pleased you are so passionate and chose to vote as soon as you were able. I work with a lot of young people who have no idea who is in power nevermind what each party is supposed to stand for or what decisions they have made. Thank god there are young people like you. I don't agree with some of what you said but who cares - well done for saying it! I think Nick Clegg is a weak, power hungry man with no principles and no place in politics. But that could probably said for many others in all political parties. Bring back Tony Benn.

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. Bring back Tony Benn.


Hear Hear Lou!

I love your passion Hot Charity!

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I hate them all, with a passion, still a class system, shit flows downwards, always has , always will..nowt will change, socialism/communism is horrible, it dont work, people love 50 " tv's and 3 boxes of beer for £20 at tesco.

must stop coming on here when im squiffy :BEEEER


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gary#2 wrote:
people love 50 " tv's and 3 boxes of beer for £20 at tesco...discuss?


Don't mention the sticky toffee pudding flavoured milk...


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Thanks for the kind responses for my post :)

As someone who able to see new grey hairs on a daily basis and has increasingly weak knees it is an absolute delight to be called young.

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Poppy Dog wrote:
Don't mention the sticky toffee pudding flavoured milk...


God, the things you learn on here! Northern swear words, men in suspenders shagging exhaust pipes and now obscene food. I consider my mind truly broadened.

And Gary, don't agree with you at all about people just wanting stuff. That's not my experience at all. You're obviously hanging around with wrong uns. One of the most insidious lies that this gang of c**ts has ever managed to make common currency is that people don't give a shit about anyone but themselves and what they've got. It's bollocks. When given the choice of doing the right thing or the wrong thing, or having things for themselves or a bit more for everybody, most people would choose to do the right thing.

Don't believe the hype, as a man once said. x


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